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This is inspiring.

:)

P.S. You are certainly not alone.

Excellent, thanks for sharing. Glad to see another addition to the notgames alliance. ;)

I see what problems brings conventional gameplay, but I don’t understand the problems of narrative. Also, are not meaning and narration the same?

I like that the writer of the article makes a distinction. The terms he uses can indeed be a bit confusing but he does explain quite well what he means by them. The problem with narrative (as used in his definition), basically, is that it is linear and thus forces an alien structure onto videogames.

Hm, so, do you mean linear narrative then?.

As I see it narrating and expressing something are the same, a narration doesn’t have to be necessarily a linear story, but a feeling or a sensation too. I think a picture, a sculpture or a song can be narrations. I don’t know, maybe I’m using wrong the term.

I agree, Jorge. That’s why I called his terminology unintuitive. But if you stick to his definitions, his point is very clear.

Yes, I think as you too, but I wanted to make that clear, as it could have led to misunderstandings.

I have been thinking for a long time that linear narrative is pointless in the interactive medium. By the own nature of the games, they are always trying to retain you, they are constantly putting you obstacles to hold your progress, but at the same time, by the own nature of the narration through non-interactive cinematics, the story keeps forcing you to advance through it. The result are two opposite forces fighting each other, and in my opinion, that’s why rythm and tempo are so hard to mantain in conventional videogames.

The traditional goal-oriented game structure also implies linearity. From challenge over action to completion and reward.

Would you call, then, puzzle oriented games like, for example, Tetris, Lumines or Puzzle Bobble linear games?

I understand what you said applied to story-driven games, but about all that arcade games which focuses on gameplay and mechanic ignoring the narrative aspect (the games that deserve their name the most) I’m not pretty sure.

Of those three, I have only played Tetris. And it’s most definitely linear. If only because it always ends, not by choice of the player but because the system become progressively more difficult. In a way, Tetris and games like this always end with the player losing. It’s kind of depressing.

But you’re right that in these cases, it doesn’t make much sense to talk about linearity. They are more like continuous repetitions of the same simple interaction.

And do you think linearity it’s bad by itself, or depends on how that linearity is managed?

Of course it’s not bad. Linearity could be very good, depending on the story you’re trying to tell.

You really need to stop using the word gameplay, it’s frustrating.

http://insomnia.ac/commentary/gameplay/

alastair:
That depend on how ones defines it really. If one defines it as “what is in a game”, well then it is pretty vague and not very useful. But more specific definition can actually be helpful.

For example, when designing a game, one might want to balance between “gameplay” and “story” in a certain part. I think the word is very usable in a situation like this as it helps to convey a message. As for my lil blog post, I think the use of “gameplay” is quite fair, especially since I explicitly define it and hence give people an option to attack that definition. (which many have!).

It’s easy to get frustrated with the inadequacy of old words when trying to describe new experiences. Until we find new appropriate words, we should all be patient and try to understand what people mean even if they can’t express it correctly.

However,Tetris and games like this always end with the player losing.The little essay echoes our own thoughts on the subject is the post by viewing us how a gameplay narrates it. Thanks to share it with us.